Where The Pumpkins Fell ~ Kobe Bryant 8/24's Copter Down

By the numbers...on Twitter...

Late on January 25, 2020, John E. L. Tenney (@JohnELTenney) read this Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) tweet:

"NEW from Parnas tape obtained by @NBCNews: Parnas and Fruman appear to compare Trump to the messiah, using a Jewish mystical practice known as Gematria to show the numerical value of Trump's name and the messiah are the same: 424"

To which Tenney responded at 8:48 p.m. Eastern, same evening: "Here come the numbers."

Then Adam Gorightly (@AdamGorightly), at 8:50 p.m., same night, wrote: "Oh Christ, don't let Loren see this!"

John wrote back, jokingly, at 8:51 p.m.: "I'll do everything I can to make sure @CryptoLoren doesn't see this...oops."

I didn't see this until much later overnight, and wrote back to Adam and John, at 1:30 a.m., first quoting a phrase from Adam:

"'Oh Christ." How appropriate for this discussion! ~"

And I posted this graphic from a previous tweet from Alex Fulton (@Crypto-Kubrology):

Then the discussion de-evolved because, as Adam noted, a newbie who said he had "discovered" the "33rd anomaly" joined the exchange.

Adam made some points about James Shelby Downard. At 1:51 a.m., Adam wrote: "I am currently in the process of publishing Downard's last writing effort, provided to me by Bill Grimstad. Downard is the author of the King Kill 33 theory and championed the theory...cited re: Jornada del Muerto. I authored a biography of Downard."

I pointed out my 2008 critique of Gorightly's biography, for reference.

Tim Binnall (@binnall) joked, saying, at 1:55 a.m., "you mean there is some kind of numerological significance to the number 33?!"

Tim also posted a challenge to Alex Fulton and Loren Coleman (me) at 2:23 a.m., January 26, 2020: "Today (1/26) is my birthday, so I expect a full Cryptokubrological reading from you fine gentlemen at some point in the next 24 hours. Thank you and happy birthday to me."

Finally, it was getting too late for me. So at 2:17 a.m., I tweeted: "This has been fun, but it is almost 2:37 am on the East Coast, and all Forteans turn into pumpkins."

On Tim's Facebook site, early in the day, I shared: "On Tim's exact birthday, January 26, 1979, Nelson Rockefeller died. If you don't know how and why that happened, look it up."

Then at 3:08 p.m., January 26, 2020, Alex Fulton tweeted: "Rockefeller 41st VP died on Tim's day of birth, and on Tim's 41st birthday, Kobe Bryant has died."

To which at 3:16 pm, I tweeted: "And Bryant was 41. His number 24 (42 reversed)."

Later in the day. I tweeted to Tim and Alex: 

"Tim ~ It has turned into a major day. Cryptokubrologically. And we were geared up for analysis due to your heads up. 41st birthday for you. Death date for Rockefeller the 41st VP. Death of Kobe Bryant at 41. 8. 24. "

The news was all over the news channels and online sites. Kobe Bryant had died in a helicopter crash, along with, as first reported, five. That number was updated later.

Kobe Bryant’s large, powerful, personal (N72EX) Sikorsky S-76 is the same kind of helicopter, slightly modified, which the U.S. Army employs as the UH-60 Black Hawk.

Calabasas, California news conference on NINE deceased victims in Kobe Bryant helicopter crash being held at exactly 2:37 pm Pacific time.

Kobe Bryant's earliest NBA jersey number was 8. 2x4 = 8.

Kobe Bryant’s Sikorsky S-76B, built in 1991, left John Wayne Airport 9:06 am, 1.26.2020. It then passed over Boyle Heights, near Dodger Stadium. It crashed before 10 am, near Las Virgenes Rd and Willow Glen St in Calabasas, California. The first 911 call was recorded at 9:47 a.m., Pacific Time.

Calabasas =

It is generally accepted that the name of Calabasas is derived from the Spanish calabaza meaning "pumpkin," "squash," or "gourd." Some historians hold the theory that Calabasas is derived from the Chumash word calahoosa, which is said to mean "where the wild geese fly." Owing to vast presence of wild squash plants in the area, the squash theory is more prevalent among local residents. At the top of the Calabasas grade, which is east of Las Virgenes Road, legend has it that in 1824, a Basque rancher from Oxnard spilled a wagonload of pumpkins on the road en route to Los Angeles. The following spring, hundreds of pumpkin seeds sprouted alongside the road. The area was named Las Calabasas—the place where the pumpkins fell.
In honor of its namesake, the City of Calabasas and the Calabasas Chamber of Commerce hold an annual Pumpkin Festival in October, including carnival games, exhibits, demonstrations, and live entertainment. The festival has evolved from a small-town fair to a significant annual event. Though the current Pumpkin Festival is held at Juan Bautista de Anza Park in Calabasas, the original festival was believed to have taken place where the traveling wagon carrying pumpkins overturned and started the area's first pumpkin patch.
The city's official logo, depicting a red-tailed hawk flying over the Santa Monica Mountains. Source.

Where the pumpkins fell. Calabasas, Cucurbita pepo.

Kobe Bean Bryant (August 23, 1978 – January 26, 2020)

His parents named him after the famous beef of Kobe, Japan, which they saw on a restaurant menu. His middle name, Bean, was derived from his father's nickname "Jellybean." Bryant was raised Catholic.

By his name we shall know him...The Japanese name Kobe comes from a city in Japan notable for the origin of Kobe beef. Kobe is also said to consist of two kanji Ko (meaning "god") and Be (meaning "door"), which may also fit since the city of Kobe was built around a shrine, which opened the doors to Japanese gods. 

Bryant is the transferred use of an Old Breton-Irish surname derived from the ancient Celtic male name Brian. The name Brian comes from the Old Celtic word “brígh” which means 'noble, strong, virtuous. The surname Bryant has been around since the 12th century.

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Lakers promotional helicopter,

Kobe Bryant’s death simulated on cartoon Legends of Chamberlain Heights. (11-16-16)

Chris Cornell, Christ, Corn, and the Jesus Christ Pose

How are William Earl Brown and Eric Roberts doing?

Chris Cornell ~ Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart (2015)

I previously spoke here of Corn, Christ and Osiris. It appears to have come home to roost in this week's celebrity self-death.

Do note that the suicide of May 17th detailed below was followed immediately by the Richard Rojas/Times Square attempted suicide-by-cop incident of May 18, 2017. See here.

Richard Rojas was "swatched" widely by the media, online and on-air, after his deadly deed ended with his own personal "Christ pose."

Across social media, there have been many reactions to the suicide of Chris Cornell. From Zach Bauer's "Corn-ell. 17 (1+7=infinity) Maize, May" to others pointing out "Chris Cornell" = "Christ" + "Corn." You do not need me to repeat all of those. But certainly, the syncs are there.

On May 17, 2017, Chris Cornell was found dead in the bathroom of his room at the MGM Grand in Detroit, Michigan, after performing at a show with Soundgarden at the Fox Theatre. The cause of death was determined to be suicide by hanging. Cornell was 52 years old.

The problem is, no one really knows what run-of-the-mill depression is. You'll think somebody has run-of-the-mill depression, and then the next thing you know, they're hanging from a rope. It's hard to tell the difference. ~ Chris Cornell

When interviewed after Cornell's death, his wife Vicky has questioned whether he would intentionally take his own life. She stated that during a phone conversation, her husband was "slurring his words; he was different. When he told me he may have taken an extra Ativan or two, I contacted security and asked that they check on him. What happened is inexplicable and I am hopeful that further medical reports will provide additional details. I know that he loved our children and he would not hurt them by intentionally taking his own life."

Chris Cornell (born Christopher John Boyle; July 20, 1964 – May 17, 2017) was known for his role as one of the architects of the 1990s grunge movement. He was an American musician, singer and songwriter, best known as the lead vocalist, primary songwriter and rhythm guitarist for Seattle rock band Soundgarden and as lead vocalist and songwriter for the group Audioslave. He was also known for his numerous solo works and soundtrack contributions since 1991, and as founder and frontman for Temple of the Dog, the one-off tribute band dedicated to his late friend Andrew Wood.

L to R: Layne Staley, Alice in Chains (deceased); Eddie Vedder, Pearl Jam (living); Kurt Cobain, Nirvana (deceased); Chris Cornell, Soundgarden (deceased).

Please read "Grunge's Copycat Carnage" - a new essay - that gathers much on the deaths and dying in the sub-culture of music and more among Grunge bands.

Jesus Christ Pose

Soundgarden explained that the lyrics for "Jesus Christ Pose" concern the exploitation of religion for personal benefit. The song is a criticism of how public figures use religion (particularly the image of Jesus Christ) to portray themselves as being "better" than others, or as "martyrs". Chris Cornell specifically mentioned Jane's Addiction's frontman Perry Farrell as an influence on the song, explaining, "It became fashionable to be the sort of persecuted-deity guy." In an interview, Cornell explained the term "Jesus Christ Pose":

"You just see it a lot with really beautiful people, or famous people, exploiting that symbol as to imply that they're either a deity or persecuted somehow by their public. So it's pretty much a song that is nonreligious but expressing being irritated by seeing that. It's not that I would ever be offended by what someone would do with that symbol."

Cornell was first married to Susan Silver, the manager of Alice in Chains and Soundgarden. They had a daughter, Lillian Jean, born in June 2000. He and Silver divorced in 2004. In December 2008, Cornell reported via his official website that he had finally won back his collection of 15 guitars after a four-year court battle with Silver.

His second marriage was to Vicky Karayiannis, a Paris-based American publicist of Greek heritage. The couple had a daughter together, Toni, born in September 2004, and a son, Christopher Nicholas, born in December 2005. Cornell converted to the Greek Orthodox Church through her influence.

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Cornell received a Golden Globe Award nomination for his song "The Keeper" which appeared in the film Machine Gun Preacher and co-wrote and performed the theme song to the James Bond film Casino Royale (2006), "You Know My Name". The last solo release prior to his death was the charity single "The Promise," written for the ending credits for the film of the same name.

In 2012, Soundgarden's "Live to Rise" from Marvel's The Avengers (Official Video) clearly gives voice to the "Jesus Christ" theme, with some of the following lyrics. "Sun" can be interchanged with "Son."

Like the sun we will live to rise,
Like the sun we will live and die,
And then ignite again,
Like the sun we will live to rise, (Oh yeah)
What if the one thing that I missed,
Was everything I need to pass the test,
And if I fail what happens then,
Can I still count on you as a friend
Were in sync but not alone,
You hold on,
And their gone

Some say that Soundgarden's most famous song is "Black Hole Sun" -- named after Black Sun sculpture in Seattle. The occult symbolism behind Black Sun can be found here.

Casino Royale (2006), "You Know My Name":

Footage of his final concert was posted to YouTube.


Mia Zapata, the powerful singer of the Seattle indie band The Gits was brutally raped and murdered on July 7, 1993.

Zapata’s body was found with her arms out and her legs crossed, and she was placed between two Roman Catholic buildings on either side of the street. Zapata’s body was found, as Unsolved Mysteries noted, "lying face up in an almost Christ-like pose."

If you wish to talk to someone about suicide, call the 

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

Call 1-800-273-8255